Anything Goes – Well Almost! Using a projector.

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  • #96895 Score: 0

    Steve
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    Hi guys

    Tried a few times to post this but no luck so trying again. I recently took a photo of an old weathered door and using an old vga projector I projected it onto some paper – zoomed into the lock and did a rough drawing to paint later. Doing this the thought occured to me “Is this cheating?” or is it just like using grids or indeed does it matter at all but I`d be very interested in thoughts from others please?.

    thanks

    Steve

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    Agathe
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    I don’t think of it as cheating! I would do something similar more in the beginning of painting because it was so time consuming to get the drawing right, and all I wanted to do was paint! Now however I have practiced my drawing skills and drawing is much quicker than before. What I feel personally though with my own drawings, is that when I do not “cheat” as you call it, the drawing has more personality, while when I trace the drawing it seems more stiff. It might be not as perfectly accurate, but still appears to have more life to it. But I still might trace if I was to do something very complex that would just take too long to draw out. I’d say do whatever you want to do! If drawing things is time consuming and boring, trace it, and skip to the fun part! It’s way better than not getting around to it at all because drawing it out seems too big a task.

    And about this particular example, symmetrical things are probably the hardest to draw (in my experience) as it is hard to get both sides the same. So a lock like this would pretty soon look a bit wonky, and if that is something you don’t want, maybe tracing it is a good idea. Especially since erasing can affect how the paper absorbs the paint, and multiple trials and errors might affect the final result. 🙂

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    Steve
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    Many thanks for your helpful reply Agathe much appreciated. I recently watched a YouTube on work by David Poxon and I really like David’s depiction of decay in everyday objects like doors, rooms etc which made me think about the padlock. Maybe a touch ambitious for a first go at watercolor as I’ve no idea how to make things look old and decayed but should be fun all the same 😀.

    Regards

    Steve

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    Pete Batho
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    @gasman Hi Steve. I don’t think it’s cheating to use any aid. I mean… where do you draw the line (pardon the pun). The old masters used a variety of methods such as proportional dividers, gridding, camera obscura or camera lucida. If it was good enough for the likes of Leonardo then who am I to dispute that. I personally use camera lucida on my iPad quite a lot. It just enables me to get on with the painting. I’m quite confident in my drawing skills so where’s the harm.

    Happy painting.

    Pete

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    Steve
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    Hi Pete

    Thanks for that, maybe ‘cheating’ is a bit strong but hopefully you get where I’m coming from but maybe the purists among us would disagree 😀. I think Agathe’s suggestion that symmetry would be more accurate using tracing/projection especially for a beginner is a good one!.

    Thanks again

    Steve

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    Brian
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    Use any aid you want to make life easier.

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    Jim
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    hi Steve, I am a fairly new beginner not  competent in neither drawing or painting.

    I have tried drawing and used a grid but my efforts were awful. I decided my main requirement was the learning to paint watercolour so now either trace or more recently Camera Lucida app to hopefully start off with a decent drawing.

    In my opinion it is not cheating and you should use whatever you need to get the result your happy with.

    I have bought a A5 cheap sketch book to start some practice exercises with but I wont be seeking quality good enough paint  just yet.

    Jim

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    Steve
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    Thanks all for the pointers especially to Pete and Jim for mentioning the Camera Lucida app, never heard of that one before and looks easier to use than my vga projector. Just bought the app and will get the Osmo stand too!.

    best

    Steve

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    Jim
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    Hi Steve, I also bought the Osmo stand but be aware it only projects in portrait format. I was helped enormously by Pete Batho who was kind enough to send me pics of his set up using a stand he made. I quickly made a prototype and it works a treat. I added a pics of PeteS stand hope this helps.

     

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    Paula
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    If it’s your own photo, who cares? (my new philosophy of life). Or to quote my husband, ” Why not?”

    Paula

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    Howard W
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    I like to paint portraits. I recently traded emails with Janet Rogers who is a professional watercolor artist who sells instruction videos and teaches how to paint portraits and expressive flower paintings.

    I explained to her that I wanted to paint our great-granddaughter twins for a Christmas gift. She recommended that I use an image projector to assist me in portrait painting. She does it herself;, especially for commission work.  I could still sketch the portraits that I would paint.  Her suggestion was that I use the projector to redraw my sketches when I wasn’t satisfied with the portrait painting and wanted to repaint it until I was satisfied with the result. Why spend all my time redrawing my sketch when I could project it, draw it quickly in pencil and start painting again? That makes a lot of sense to me.

    I am now evaluating projectors for purchase.  If anyone here can give me suggestions for a good projector, I would like to hear it.

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    Steve
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    Excellent replies folks just what I wanted 😀. Nice setup Jim think I could make one of those.I think maybe the Osmo won’t work in landscape because it needs the mirror to spin 90 degs! Perhaps a project for another day😉.

    Regards

    Steve

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      Pete Batho
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      @gasman Hi Steve. Think the problem with the osmo for landscape is the stand itself. The iPad only fits in portrait orientation. The mirror attachment is actually magnetic so would work if you could support the iPad in some way (at least I think so… not tried it). REWIND!! Actually I’ve just thought about it and it won’t work because its not angled at your paper. Doh!

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    Steve
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    A definite project for a 3d printer there 😀.

    Steve

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